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    I'm posting this for a friend of mine. For those of you who had a catheter after surgery, how did you keep the urine bag clean when switching between the small leg bag and the large "carry around" bag? I personally never changed bags. I always left the large bag on and never once disconnected it. That doesn't help my friend any! The info he has found on youtube and online shows cleaning the bags with hot soapy water and a syringe and other tubing that he does not have. He can't reach the nurse's desk to get any info. Just trying to help him out and see if anybody here knows.
    2018-10 PSA 11.84
    2019-01 Da Vinci Prostatectomy
    2019-03 PSA 0.133
    2019-05 PSA 0.143
    2019-07 PSA 0.183
    2019-08 PSA 0.197
    2019-08 Start ADT
    2019-09 Start SRT
    2019-12 End ADT and SRT
    2020-01 PSA <0.006
    2020-04 PSA 0.040
    2020-07 PSA 0.096
    2020-08 PSA 0.104
    2020-09 PSA 0.113
    2020-10 PSA 0.122
    2020-10 Started bicalutamide 50mg daily
    2021-01 PSA <0.014
    2021-04 PSA <0.014
    2021-11 PSA 0.018
    2022-02 PSA 0.018

  • #2
    Never mind, nurses station called back and got him the required "tools" to properly clean the bags. It's a little odd they didn't get it right the first time around but they are busy.
    2018-10 PSA 11.84
    2019-01 Da Vinci Prostatectomy
    2019-03 PSA 0.133
    2019-05 PSA 0.143
    2019-07 PSA 0.183
    2019-08 PSA 0.197
    2019-08 Start ADT
    2019-09 Start SRT
    2019-12 End ADT and SRT
    2020-01 PSA <0.006
    2020-04 PSA 0.040
    2020-07 PSA 0.096
    2020-08 PSA 0.104
    2020-09 PSA 0.113
    2020-10 PSA 0.122
    2020-10 Started bicalutamide 50mg daily
    2021-01 PSA <0.014
    2021-04 PSA <0.014
    2021-11 PSA 0.018
    2022-02 PSA 0.018

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    • #3
      I never used the leg bag, but when I changed bags I did it in the shower and washed the old bag out with Dawn detergent.
      YOB 1957

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      3/6/19. Post surgery Pathology Report - Grade Group 4 Intraductal Carcinoma
      T3aNO, <1 mm non focal EPE, GS8, 21 mm uni-focal tumor involved 10% of prostate.
      7 Nodes, SV, SM, PNI, and BNI were negative.
      LVI and Cribriform pattern present.
      Decipher .86 High Risk.

      Post Surgery PSA
      3/25/19 .03. (25 days)
      4/25/19 <.03. (2 months)
      5/25/19 <.02 (3 months)
      9/10/2019. <.02 (7 months)
      11/27/2019. <.02. T < 3 (9 months)
      5/19/2020. <.02 (15 months)
      11/2/2020. <.02 (21 months)
      5/11/2021. <.02 T <3 (27 months)
      8/25/2021. <.02 T <3 (30 months)
      12/6/2021. <.02 T <3 (33 months)


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      ADT - 5/19- 5/21 Eligard and Casodex.

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      • #4
        After surgery I used only the big overnight "carry around" bag all week and switched to the leg bag just before heading out to the uro's office to have the Foley removed. I guess it's moot now, but I used a leg bag for nearly a year after the initial Foley was removed. I would rinse them with cold, then warm, then hot water, and pour in a bit of rubbing alcohol. Swish back and forth, then rinse again. They would get funky after about a week and I would swap out to a new one. As I recall the 1L bags were around $4 in bulk.
        Late 2012: PSA 4, age 62 all DRE's 'normal'
        Early 2014: PSA 9.5, TRUS biopsy (false) negative
        2015: PSA's 12 & 20, lots of Cipro ... Mar '16: PSA 25, changed Urologist

        Jun'16: MRI fusion biopsy, RT base, 2ea 15-40-100% G8(4+4)
        Aug'16:DVRP, "broad cut" 11 LN-, neg margins, gland 53g, 25% involved
        multifocal EPE, PNI, BNI, bilateral SVI, pT3b N0
        Dec 2016: Mrs: Dx stage 4 NHL/DLBCL, Primary Bone Lymphoma
        spinal RT boost+6X R-CHOP21+6X IT MTX via LP.
        Remission ended 2020, Follicular NHL. Currently active surveilance.

        Mar 2020: older adult son, T-cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia (TALL)
        Hyper-CVAD + pegaspargase, RBC transfusions in NYC amid COVID-19

        Bone marrow transplant Oct 2020, currently in Remission
        Jan'17: began Lupron ADT, uPSA's ~.03
        May'17: AMS800 implanted, revised 6/17
        Aug'17: 39 tx (70 Gy) RapidArc IGIMRT
        Jan 2018-Jan 2022: PSA's <0.008, T=50
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        • #5
          Wait a minute...

          When I asked, my nurse told me to grind down 1/8th of a bar of LifeBoy soap and add it to my food daily.

          She said it would help keep the catheter bag and tubing clean and also help with bowel movements.

          Now, here you guys are talking like there were other methods.

          //Joking//
          Last edited by MRJ; 04-28-2022, 09:49 AM.
          Age Dx'd 57
          PCa History: Father, Uncles, Grandfathers
          Oct16 Bx: Gleason 4+3 Grade Group 3 w/PNI
          LB: 4+3 (60% pattern 4) CI 30%
          RA: 3+3 CI 60%
          RLM: 3+3 CI 10%
          RLA: 3+3 CI 10%

          Jan 2017 DaVinci - Dr. Grant Taylor - Pathology = pT2c or pT3a; Gleason 4+3; Weight: 42g

          Jun 2019 AMS800 installed, Jul 2019 activated - Dr. David Rapp
          ED: Moderate
          (Note: All PSA tests prior to Jun19 were done by LabCore)
          PSA_TESTS
          Apr16-5.10
          Jul16-4.70
          Aug16-5.13

          ----Surgery----
          Mar17<0.01
          Jul17<0.01
          Oct17<0.01
          Jan18<0.01
          May18<0.01
          Nov18<0.01
          Jan19<0.01
          Jun19<0.02
          Nov20<0.10
          May21<0.10
          Apr22<0.10

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MRJ View Post
            When I asked, my nurse told me to grind down 1/8th of a bar of LifeBoy soap and add it to my food daily.
            She said it would help keep the catheter bag and tubing clean and also help with bowel movements.
            Just so everyone understands... you're joking, right?


            Casualty of 2012 USPSTF recommendations

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            • #7
              Yep. Joking. I thought the LifeBoy soap reference might be enough.
              Age Dx'd 57
              PCa History: Father, Uncles, Grandfathers
              Oct16 Bx: Gleason 4+3 Grade Group 3 w/PNI
              LB: 4+3 (60% pattern 4) CI 30%
              RA: 3+3 CI 60%
              RLM: 3+3 CI 10%
              RLA: 3+3 CI 10%

              Jan 2017 DaVinci - Dr. Grant Taylor - Pathology = pT2c or pT3a; Gleason 4+3; Weight: 42g

              Jun 2019 AMS800 installed, Jul 2019 activated - Dr. David Rapp
              ED: Moderate
              (Note: All PSA tests prior to Jun19 were done by LabCore)
              PSA_TESTS
              Apr16-5.10
              Jul16-4.70
              Aug16-5.13

              ----Surgery----
              Mar17<0.01
              Jul17<0.01
              Oct17<0.01
              Jan18<0.01
              May18<0.01
              Nov18<0.01
              Jan19<0.01
              Jun19<0.02
              Nov20<0.10
              May21<0.10
              Apr22<0.10

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